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make her back for nebraska i did i did
there's a lot of area through there that needs rain but the uh grand island area looked terrific
they were sitting good they had five inches of rain in the last 12 days basically
oh my gosh that's awesome yeah but by tape they're they're dry i mean
they're dry land acres they're really really showing it which you know obviously has effect on the irrigated acres too
yeah we could use something pretty bad it's been a good month and a half since we've had a good rain
it yeah and the rains you get just sound like they're so small just like i mean it's always like that when you get dry
right but man three tenths and stuff just doesn't do a heck of a lot anymore no and no dues either in the morning
though there's more moisture at all
one thing helping us along is heavy dues in the morning right now
i think we tried it looked like we got a lot more but i only got a tenth the last couple nights that's come down
through here
the radars live pretty easily in this this type of weather patterns yeah it's just by the time it's coming
it hits the ground it's evaporated because you know still dry right
radars get your hopes up just to crush them yeah also also great
maybe wait a little bit here see who else hops on but we don't have a lot of data to go over jason so
um about four or five tissue samples that are up um
sounds good
this is vt corn um
yeah again if uh if you could look at that ratio you know that potassium and the sulfur
appear to be go to's you know for you know where the 15 8 on the end s and remember we talked
we talked not to let that get wider than 14. 14 that n decay being at 1.4 is is also
wide right so those those two things are by far the limiting factors at this point in my
opinion calcium being low but calcium again very hard to make a change
at least in tissue test late in the game um might we push it all the way through the vegetative but once we get into
reproduction we tend to hold back unless you can find a good you know foliar source that's going to be consistent
which again i i haven't ran into um at heavy levels of calcium anyway
we typically back off from the calcium and then we'll go to the next two weak links which by far potassium and sulfur
in my opinion so this is a pretty pretty common trend this time of year potassium and sulfur
seem to drop and we want to hold them as high as we possibly can
right and actually this sample point is where i ran humacal and that 0013 but i ran it
like three or four days before the tissues were pulled so it wasn't out there very long
um so i'd be interested to see if maybe that'll rise a little bit or not
but yeah that will be interesting and and again not always will you see your sulfur in the sulfur right it once
we're looking at total nitrogen which is your protein so sometimes your sulfur is going to convert into your
your your nitrogen as well and i know i think we talked about that i think you're you're planning on putting some sulfur out yet weren't you
yeah i'm gonna get some melted ams uh hopefully get that on sooner than later get it in maybe next week
your your overall looks good again your mbi is nice right at 38 it's not
terrible um when you look at your macros they're pretty darn good on your drizz level i'm i'm happy to see your nitrogen
hold we've been seeing a lot of big dips in nitrogen at vtr1 this year and i think it's a combination of you know
that plants going through a lot plus we're we're under weather stress basically every part of the country um
whether it's too much rain in a few areas and and uh wind and heat you know we're always battling with stress and
stress limits limits that nitrogen cap
right at this point would you just run the i mean stop on the nitrogen i mean we're just getting into brown silk on
this farm um would you just focus on the melted ams as well for sure i would you're exactly
right more nitrogen at this point yep yep i sure would now if you thought there was 300 some bushel
potential um you know we typically put another 30 again soil test would tell us
a little bit more right but we typically um we're not afraid to put another 30 35 40
pounds of n out of brown cell can still get a nice response but it just depends on what's in the soil right and then
where you think that your your yield cap is for this scenario if it's a 260 field
um not very often do we apply if we have a three percent at vt we typically are
good at that point right i still think i mean 300 could
still be in there on this farm this is the one that you did not walk in the other day um
but this one looks a little better overall but from a visual being out in the field
standpoint i should say yep well when was your last soil that you
pulled on this one so i thought nick was gonna pull it two weeks ago but
i must be either this week or next week he was gonna pull it okay well feel free to shoot me a text state
if that comes through we can look at that together but again you're gonna want in my opinion you're gonna want 60
pounds of ends still sitting in that soil for 300 here sounds good yeah i'll let you know when
that comes in sounds good
yeah just screw that up hold on here click happy
here's the other zone in that field too there's zone two jason
or if you want to look at that or not yeah um
are we seeing looks like really the same trends though doesn't it
you mean it they basically look similar are these treated the same no this one does not have
the humacal or the 0 13. i just did 32 and diazole
and that's all i did on this one but again i these were pulled three or four days after that it was applied so i
wouldn't really probably expect to see it and how much water did you put on when
you did it um probably 600 i believe half inch to 60
at that time yeah i'd expect to see the cape already coming through on that last
sample a little bit too truthfully but uh no if you if you look at your ranking
it's just slightly lower right than the other field so um i don't know what it was before it'd be interesting to see if your ranking
actually came up better where you managed it the other way versus this way um your overall rank it'd be darn
interesting to see that trend to see if you're making a change already or not
right but yeah this one doesn't look a whole lot different overall
no slightly lower but not a lot difference i agree and the trends look the same again if if if the zinc
i don't know what you've done there if you're going to do a fungicide app again at brown silk or if you're done but
keeping that zinc in that 28 range i really do believe there's good value in that if you think that potential is
there in that field to be 300 plus again if it's 250 you're fine where you're sitting if you think you have 300
i'd take another shot of zinc because odds are it's just going to go down again next week right so just a hedge to
hedge that um from dropping any lower but i i don't think i'd run the if
you're going to run it through the drip just use something cheap like zinc oxide uh or sorry ammonia zinc um but if
you're going to go through the the foliar i'd look at an amino acid based zinc if you could
okay and maybe run that with the liquefied ams or something yeah exactly okay
awesome yup and your liquefied ams it'll blend right with your ammonia zing
good deal don't worry about something weird happening with it
here's the other field no i think it probably tells the same story but when you look at it jason
a little bit better zinc um very similar otherwise isn't it i mean it's just
very standard all the way across the board um again holding then well i'm i'm i'm happy with your end
a lot a lot of guys are fighting that one eight to two three right now so i'm happy to see that you're holding your
end as well as you are everything else is very similar that potassium and sulfur are my big concerns
okay and then yeah about the same time frame i put the
210 on and i was on that last sample um actually a few days after i did the
macau but anyway this 80 that this is the one we walked in um this is the one that i did i'm doing
the trial on yep between the two and i think we were in a bad spot that
day because even where we were at i i didn't look great at that time and i kind of i walked out of that field the
next day in different spots and i see more consistency i don't know if you remember but we thought some rows weren't
a lighter green than others um i'm hoping that we were maybe just in
a compacted area that wasn't allowing the roots to get to the tape maybe i
i'm not exactly sure but um anyway
yeah it it's just like we got just for tim and kurt we were just
it looked a little bit like we were getting more water and more nutrition in certain rows with it with the tape than
we were others and you would think at this point we should be overlapping well enough to take advantage of that but all
in all the corn looked good it just you could just see a slight variance like a 10 to 15 percent lighter shade
is the drip line exactly in the middle of two rows or what's the situation is it is there some
lines that are further from the rows that you were talking about looked like they were starving a little bit
uh the tape is dead on when i went to go dig to put the probe in um
that tape line was dead center um so i don't know i'm hoping it was just we were maybe in a compacted area that was
making maybe a little tougher but i walked in some other areas of the field that looks better a little more
consistent crossed do you think you got enough water on i
mean we're seeing some places that are using half inch a day and we just haven't had
any rain to help so we're really having to push the irrigation hard
are you putting on a lot of water um i am now and i think that's maybe
more of a learning curve um you know we've been kind of spoiled catching rains over the years so i haven't had to run the drip you know more than
40 hundredths had a shot to do something but now it's i'm starting to have to run to 60 70 hundredths um trying to push it
out more and i've been having troubles with the moisture probe getting online and sending me data
hopefully that's resolved today officially so i've been kind of shooting in the dark a little bit while we've been having these issues but uh
hopefully i get those fixed sooner than later yeah that was my next question what the
probes were saying because it's been uh amazing to me
through some of these drier periods uh how much water the high yield corn is taking that's
half inch or more it's uh it needs a lot of water so
and and you're right you know with drip you got a you got to push it
and run it to get it to move horizontally and depending on your soil type and we talk about this more offline
if you want to but depending on your soil type you may have to pulse it to get it to move horizontally
sometime when you get it saturated right around the emitter if it gets saturation it goes straight
down rather than moving horizontally right and i talked to kurt on that
earlier this week i kind of had that question and i know that's been brought up and he thought with our soil types he said just run it straight through he
thought that would help get it to push out more to let those roots grab it okay well
go on this for a while and and watch it if it's not doing what you want
then let's talk about it again but monitor it yeah sounds good i was
trying to be on the cautious side just putting more out there until this uh the moisture broke kind of gets
resolved on this farm and i've been using that that other 80 probes been working fine and i understand they're two different maturities um corn and
everything but i've been kind of using that to help make decisions on this one until it gets
resolved sounds good
is there anything else on here jason that you think i mean would suppose just run the zinc with the ams
on this one as well zinc looks great here you know again if you're over 28 that's why it's kind of
that number because it gives you a leeway um you shouldn't drop more than three parts per million typically this
time of year on a per week basis right so if we can be up there we should never get below that 20 mark all the way
through you know the end of brown silk week after brown silk so i don't know if i if it was mine i
wouldn't spend my money on zinc on this particular one because you've got good zinc numbers at a 31.
um you had potassium
yeah and yeah i sure would if you're not getting any results off this next issue on your
zero zero 13 the later we get and i think we've talked about this but the later we get in and
that's when you convert over to your your k aces and things right because your potassium acetates will get into
the plant a lot quicker so 0 0 13 typically you see it in a week
five five days to a week where case you should see the day you water almost i mean it's that it's that different i
mean they just get in the plant so fast so the later we get into brown silk and we're trying to move potassium that's
where these gallon gallon and a half shots of potassium acetate give the most value
so that case i mean i could run i mean is that just a boiler blender could i run that along with
the 32 or the 32 sorry the ams you should be able to run them right along it's it's a
full year i mean they're designed both ways it works through the soil and it works through the leaf but if you're not
making a separate pass you just got to run a little higher volume when you're going in my opinion a two quart rate
foliar acts like about a gallon rate in the soil so
you can run it through the soil you just got to have higher volume okay know that i'll try and get that
coming this way sounds great good luck thanks
spooky
cheers the galen's tissues on corn jason
perfect galen what have we done uh as of late
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am i the only one that can't hear galen okay hang on
can you hear me now there we go
restraining trying to start the diesel pump yes we've been running uh some urea
melted urea and like a 20 22 10
uh mixture we've ran some zinc a couple weeks ago
how much zinc did you put in sorry again how much zinc did you did you run it
through the drip i ran it through the above ground drip uh two gallons of a ten percent nature
zinc because that's what i had wow that made a heck of a difference didn't it
it did yeah it's tremendous you look at the overall rank that's
that's high that's ding eye uh looks great what have you done on the potassium i didn't you said something
about a 10 22 or something did you say uh we ran some kts that's been
that's been probably three or four weeks ago also we've uh we've ran we've been
running um basically 32 and ats
which comes out to like a 22-8 or ten or something
you haven't gotten it doesn't even i mean your nitrogen is excellent the the sulfur is just lagging what about your
boron have you done anything to address that um so the plane was supposed to fly
after that sample and i'm pretty sure they left it out because i already got a sample back from waypoint that didn't
show it so we ran some through the above ground drip yesterday
what'd you run uh the ten percent brandt boron
got a at a half gallon we ran a gallon a gallon gotcha
it'll be interesting see what you can get moved yeah that that boron sure is lagging compared to everything
else you know you can tell that that root is working nice just the way everything's pumping the the phosphorus
have you have you tried late season phosphorus on that at all have not i've never tried that
i'd be interested just because just because it by far is your lowest
you know um dominant nutrient right i mean at 0.27 everything else is holding up there
again your potassium is what i would go after the hardest um by far if if this is my sample everything else looks
pretty good boron and potassium would be the two things i'm after especially since you've already been applying the sulfur my guess is again it's just
converting into the protein and that's why you have such a darn good nitrogen number right a 3 2 is probably as good as you're going to see
maybe a 3 4 3 4 3 4 is the highest i've i've never
seen anything higher than a 3 4 at a 2 at an r2 r3 sample
okay cool can i run can i make can i mix kts
in like a 3 18 18 or something or just run the 3 18 18.
what's the 18 consist of what's the knight what's the potassium source um i don't even know
it just it's just your standard 3 18 18 of um potassium hydroxide is what i assume
okay i would have to check i don't even know but yeah you can sure do that if that's
your cheapest option well available option
and and then if i was going to run that 318 18 again i would put uh you know a
quart of at least a quart on actually i'd probably run two quarts of uh carbon
based with that if you're going through the drip with it okay
all right and then the the manganese it you know
it's it's not perfect i'd like to see a little hired you got anything to throw in from agony's just because the sample
is so good why not shoot for the moon does this corn look like 330 340 corn
it looks pretty it looks pretty good looking at the plant
we do got brace roots above the ground and you know uh the ear i don't know i'm
still still waiting to see on the ears but we've got i mean it's planted at 38 000
and we had we had we had double ears so i don't know if they're still there this week
but why are your braces how high are they coming off are they actually attaching
to the ground are they actually just shooting out uh they're not they're not like
they're up probably a half inch out of the ground to it or maybe an inch inch to a half inch they're not way up like we see them sometimes
it is is it browning at all below that point
i not on the outside of the stock i was no i haven't had a stock open yet yeah do that
cut a stock open i'll tell you when the last week of traveling these plots i've cut it you know try to cut a lot of them
open and majority of the time we're finding that if we didn't have either there's copper deficiency which
you'll see there's a little bit of browning um to set the embrace roots up or we're already styrofoam in there and
we don't want it to be styrofoam right um it's just telling us that we didn't have enough synthates to keep up where we didn't create create enough sugars to
keep up with demand so it'll turn that white styrofoam looking thing and it won't be wet now you get it's always
going to turn to styrofoam at some point but you still want it to be wet through there showing that there's still movement through that that styrofoam
does that make sense yep and again if it's copper it's a simple
fix right you can run six eight ounces of a of an amino acid type copper and it'll
get in the plant instantly and you can change that um now if it's styrofoam already you're not going to change much
of that right you're just limited at that point but at least tells you when you ran out of energy
but the calcium you haven't done anything on the calcium to keep it this side this is natural uh well this is we ran some foliar
mainstay early uh and then we ran some calcium chloride out
like oh probably eight pounds of calcium as in the form of calcium chloride
that's even four weeks ago did you did you put humic with it
oh man i'd have uh i don't know we did i don't we i don't know that we
ran it with it i can't remember look at my notes
do you remember if it had how big of an effect it had on the calcium do you know where you were at before yeah i would yeah
i uh i can't say without looking no problem we were
it's the calcium has been what are what are we here the calcium has been trending down right yeah we're 0.47
okay yeah i think i think it's it's it's basically flatlined
pretty much and eight pounds so eight pounds you put
on what on that you put on uh six gallons
uh we just slurried it so we just we we uh it so is calcium chloride is 27 calcium and we
just figured up eight pounds of calcium dumped it in a thousand gallon tank slurry it up pumped it out through the
above ground drip gotcha it and obviously mixed with water and
see that's the reason why the i'm hoping you did put carbon with it because calcium chloride is great as it is the
issue with it it fixes with bicarbs and creates lime really really easy you know it's awesome product because
it's completely available to the crop so i think it's the best in the cheapest form but
if you have much for buy carbs you know it it'll turn to lime i mean it instantly you can find it in the lime
test okay interesting we we definitely have ransomed some
some of that but i don't remember if we ran it with the calcium gotcha yep well and if it was right
around that drip it could have buffered that as well you know but it i like it mixed pre-mixed truthfully because it
gives you a little protection what's in that water getting through the delivery mechanism you know
okay now we have ran yeah you asked about manganese we did run so we ran with that two gallons of zinc we also
ran two gallons of manganese and we haven't really seen it show up too much
and the ph of the soil is what um in the zero to zero to six it's going to be right
around six and a half gotcha yeah and you ran sulfate
uh sorry sagan you ran the sulfate version um that was the nature of six percent so
um that would have been whatever it's whatever that would have been i don't even know
okay yeah it should be available i mean like
i said if you're if your ph isn't over seven typically going through the the drip i think should work consistently
not a lot of things to screw that manganese up in that form
yeah gotcha
you have any questions on it otherwise like i say these are good numbers really good numbers potassium is what i'd like i said i'd go after potassium heart if i
could um and other than that you already went after the boron so i think we should be in good shape
yeah um we're gonna go we'll go get some we'll go get some 318 18 and
see if we can pull up that phosphorus and work on the potassium can you try as high as a 10 gallon rate
just in a zone or in a small block you bet good all right great
we'll push her out there
same thing you haven't done anything different necessarily on this have you no we were gonna it was gonna be a
treatment block but they're both exactly the same yeah the tissues come back nice and even too so that's nice to see
[Music] got everything you need galen i think so yep we're good
i'll just i'm just throwing a couple comments here i might throw a screen share up quick i don't want to get off
in the weeds too far here but what'll be enter really interesting from my standpoint on this if we do this
potassium like this so this is the field we have these nitrate and potassium sensors
and and and yeah we've been seeing the potassium movement in the soil so we
have a potassium sensor six inches and at 24 inches and
the the guy in spain we're working with thinks that our potassium is about to fall out of bed
so which basically aligns exactly with what you're saying jason that we need to we need to spike some potassium in here
well and again guys if you if you want to look at something i've been i've probably done 400 of them in the last 10
days but move two to three leaves below um depending on how far out you are like i
said if i'm in r r1 right i'm only going two leaves down i'm skipping two leaves and grabbing the next leaf but if you
that'll it's if you're not taking another soil test look at your h3a levels and you're not refilling at 40.
um the next best thing is always going to be to take that two leaf down it it definitely tells you what you're
going to look like in 10 days and take another tissue sample you're
saying yeah you keep them separate right you send in you skip two leaves take that 10 samples there and you send it in
and then you take your ear leaf like you are and you compare them if if you're if they're starting to get if there's a if
there's a gap between your lower leaf and your ear leaf all it's doing is telling you what it's what your ear leaf
is gonna be okay
and it's really accurate i mean like i said the soil test is simple too right but for some guys especially not this
grounds got so dang hard for them it's easier to pull that second leaf than it is to ex and late in the game here you
know we're not putting a lot of pounds of potassium out anymore you know once we're in our two stage typically at that
point it's going to be smaller shots right so point being is that that that's where that really comes in handy uh
looking at that lower leaf
and the other thing is we've been irrigating so up until um last week when it cooled off
often and got a little bit of rain we were irrigating four tenths of an inch a day every day
and we on the moisture probes we were we really were hardly keeping up at four tenths of an inch so
understanding that and there's always this discussion about does high yielding corn take more water
base we're seeing if this yield is truly set up for what we think it might be it does take more water
i guess jason do you have any thoughts on that i don't know if you and i have ever discussed that but
university guys say it's still a quarter inch a day like that's you don't get much higher than that and
i'm starting to think that's not true at all i think the more nutrients you have to pull it takes more water to pull it
yeah i will say this though and then um it's happening again i was just down there uh
nix uh nick's got these trials where i've explained this before i think but you know it's this the there's four
plots and that's the second year of it but where you put moisture probes and he puts and i'm not good at moisture probes
but the ones that show every inch instead of every four or whatever it is and then after
where he's been fully applying um certain nutrients it's you're actually using he's got such
a so much bigger root and deeper root that it's showing he's using less moisture in
that scenario but his roots are so much bigger and he can see that where where it's pulling right so he shows these
charts and i i i'd love he should just get on one of these calls and talk about us at some
point but basically it's about a 40 percent bigger root mass where he's been doing most of his work through the
through the leaf it's crazy interesting yeah that would be good if
you want to line that up i would i mean it's it's so fascinating i mean this company that we're doing
this for is a seed corn company uh and they're just trying to look at what they can do to you know and on whether it's
got a flex here in the beginning or the end and then they want to look at hybrids that uh have weak roots versus
good roots and see if you can change that and it there's five hybrids and it's changing all five hybrids
so yeah if you guys are interested i'll sure see if nick can jump on i think it's fascinating
that very interested
all right i'm gonna text him now so i don't forget about it
if we get time at the end here i can show some of these nitrate and potassium sensors but let's make sure we get
through everybody first we just got one more sample that's in anyways and it's jessie's so i would
think we'd have time kurt okay i'll get it ready
sorry what's this one i i'm sorry i was texting nick and i missed the name and
uh justice okay and we got an r1 yep hey jesse if you're on have you done
anything here as of late yeah i uh pump potassium sulfate and a little bit
of nitrogen and a little bit of manganese a little bit of manganese it and i can't
see last week's samples obviously is is the manganese moving no
i think the demand was more than what i put on or the other thing is though that i
only got half of it on before this sample another half after this sample so
but it dropped my manganese dropped slightly from the prior week is the phosphorus been this good
consistently or did you do something to pop it here it is coming up
and you haven't done anything oh yeah i've been i've been pushing paws for the last couple weeks already
internet that's nice is was your k lower than this and it's coming up or are you not getting anything from your kts
i either haven't gotten it in or the demand is outpacing so that was 2.19 last week and i'm 2.04 this week
okay so i'm i'm going to have to go heavier earlier or something i wanted to do a full year and i couldn't find anybody to
do it i didn't want to drive through my total cord yep and here yeah
at r1 at r1 you could still need pounds right so potentially you're better off going through the drip anyway how much
were you putting on i ran was that seven gallons an acre of a
zero zero seventeen thirteen seven gallons of a zero zero
seventeen thirteen okay so seven gallons so that would be what uh
two that'd be 12 pounds probably i didn't do the math whatever it is
i could do it quick seven times 11.4
0.17 yeah 13 and a half
where's you okay mike it looks like you pulled up what is his potassium on that h3a i can't read it at all
right around four what's the wrong one sorry wrong one number 21 and a half
let me get it here 41. last week's that's my memory
okay great great so you're doing you're right on schedule like we talked before you know that 15 to 20 pounds per week when
you're in that and that spot should keep your numbers from dropping again depending on water situation and
everything else and and manganese but your manganese isn't terrible um
how much you're going to move it up if i if i'm running kts like i said before
typically speaking if i put out 15 pounds a shot and i i can get up to 20
25 pounds in a week if i get below my two yeah i'll never put more than that on um just because i don't think there's
a value to that in a week's time right so that would put my max at 25 in a
week's time okay
what about my nitrogen is it time to start pushing that harder
yeah again you're going to want 60 pounds in your soil if you don't have it this is the time to put it on
but i didn't see what your sulfur was if it's if it's wider than 14 i know you said you're working on the sulfur but if
it's wider than a 14 then you're going to want to make sure that the sulfur is at that six seven to one ratio at that point
it's not lighter than 14 and
which way do you divide that and divided by s which it should just be on your ratio sheet there if you've got
it it's 12 12 to 1. perfect perfect all right then you can keep up at your eight to ten to
one and and whatever you've been doing must be working you only have to go narrower than that again is if you're fighting you because
again you don't want to overload the system of sulfur either right so that's why that ratio is so important because
anions are going to compete with anions and we don't want to slow down nitrogen uptake either you know what i mean so
that's why i watch that ratio so close when i'm putting on these last passes
yeah the rest of your tissue looks really really good your boron's up your magnesium
is slightly low zinc is perfect you know you look good
yeah the calcium even came up a little bit yeah and what did you do for that
nothing real recently a couple weeks ago i did but
and what did you do then uh calcium chloride
good good did you put humic with yours by any chance not exactly humic but yeah lots of